izo?andum.,*.'-,UNITE S Gq,% Chief S? @ifi@y Res6arch Staff 20, Januar7..l954. FJLOM Chief ,,:,Te-ohnida2 Branch.' ic@HOlff ',InUr2views with Contacts .1." On 19'January:1954 between 2:00,,,and 5:00 174 writer'talked @zith'four"tontacts who Tavi@i@n and'the ,IC ared'@-to the Secret level in connection with the ARTICHOKE wor2ki;.,.'. Set'out',be_ltri@ 's,@,a:very..!,brief.-sunmary, of :the -discussions and. t e,@, h results ther@of 4 intervie,,i2ed jointly. oe below) was extre perat e - -Lbrary; an offored @J 0 er the facilities of. ihr:, .32 to arsist'in ilie ideiitification.of rare 2 O= if ever'necessary. St he would t&2k.tcr other g@eciajists at and -rranp ways aLn attemptto a means gr mius 2 i,c@:...i,rooms orprepare mushrooms "unofficia. for possibli' ion with the ARTI- -pro ated' e felt':that', there was 2 ormation@massing in' oi$ie( % -tion,-with-toxic qua t es'@of:the musl-Lroom Ai he'was.,,@,.re3.1 aware oftuse made-by..,eertain 2 e '.types of-mu ",4 certain sliroom intoid--', Soviet "P cation. felt that'considerable'4work,". could irection and urged - and e n @.,'@t-recormncied'that'research be extended and to:in Oe articularv'contact t;ith 2 .Iready eleared) 1,*2 :Lng'as6oc iate + of tul by.'.profession S l@pth, logist attached t otea above, wa S in e ,an dent 3 -we C.@ e Dms offered f to ass n: ntification of mashroi 4 L i'f .1,!i f ti 7 d personally research llect to3d.c slvcies In co himi for rare and little- -sources ave-ilable to s having tc>2Xic qualitie's known types of mushroom to ARTICHOKE of interest -flight specialist on is regarded as a andltagle ple 0 2 He is presently lc3esert comrnendec d tione to u C liection s 2 ,T'p:Cint sts in 10 sting -xception ally intere roved an e 8 undoubtedly 2 U the f'ut'L -n ire will b, contac. has t ave t rewc7i! @IaLn ts world coi Ab:b- S o@ CHOIZ pinio the APTL lk properly explored insofar ha 2 e bs are,-Co plants and shru 13'.ttle-knc)',m narcotic -umber of years EL90 0 aL grant,..--. ce:i2-ned. study of he aslc,-%di on Ilers to make EL of twenty rii he 'Western 2 types in t ineclicinal Plan tl,OlmfabLl- s enormous re- lierni%@here rinc P 2 St wq e!p rov discovered that -I.. que w7en it was turned down but was become in- -t would 2 gove es 0 rnment agenci ed that he s in he knew., i.'. !'J' volved in this work. 2 te:Ly wri 36t up con- would imediEL disdiosing kgency interests and I without collection ci2r material* -;@-tp-ots@-and re . 0 quest advice in' quested the clearance-of in additions re 4 at 2 be of gre tated would tit ml !!Nmeoepwr7;a-=andividu s who he a 'Ls 2 n these individiia- -this work and promised @the in ;'help, t the neces 14 ere Flurthermore 2 h t:ion was fort coming he would see to it tha cleared e use of s . extreme ]#Vvaiu.-i'- d'ove th 2 "ry able a consider It ong s of inl 3 P-WM J fly. 0 many sources t i@ a cont list'in acted, who S eL speci 2 e-gating of certain b the obtaining otani, on rals can be- eat assistance in the ARTICH f gr 2 worke who was seen very late in thel -and offered doyi provie@rto be "v"e'rwy enthiviastic .;every -c-ollection and 2 possible assistance bo A%- - 3f wth b@lPLi-C4@Lls. Since w@- S' 0 l@eavin fo 2 was ve r7 short E Lgn aNh e=a a k% " d the writer-to -return as soon as arrangemen S co be made and he could %@ork out certain ideas he had rega-rding con-. tacts.and botanical collections P-l2ong PJrrICHOKE 2ines. A report wk;;ibe@su@ttedon subsec luent'i n a t rviews.with r -y between 92: On 20 Januar, 1954., 30 and 11'. wri@IL a;16e Q@ll one 01' till le whom as 2 sed and reco=.ende in ,,;t @igir ecti nwith-- th7'!Mtltl-16=wo'r@k, rove entir 17 sympathetic and made numerous sijgg ediately produced 2 -information of value in this work. very definitely supported the idea of extensive wo IGI]OKE field and stated efforts should be nade to carry out experl-nentation on human .,,sli;.'J'@ibeings through the use of,prison facilities or hospitals2, preferably-,.--. -the work could be observed proper3.y. @o Washington whe ,re ated tho-t so >een ca ou 2 .014..4L!L orl,@ r,#ed t a nd n xperime thought that 2 would f'U ,ratei3 f funds c and co-ope is work. atea i ould be' available,'Ls organiza o support and carry'out research ;I@ long'lthe Unes of TICHQG 2 -L@sh a perfect natural a *.wlLch would f' u3-d immedi ver"for'this,.work. tated he wo ately begin and'th2e rese'ar%h along @these St S have a confer;= 40 eek wi P..@ a"n h"is"a sociate;r L Writer, to 2 t W is el rence be arranged as soon as ssible. ques hat certain7.other individuals t -this'work. bnd stated that 2 cleared io f aci=U he.w6-@ld + direct his associates to research along 'certain lines of interest" to,us,4without-diselosing:Agency.interest. L 2f J'F. 4) O it 049- A f"i 9 'A