A market investor who studies unidentified anomalous phenomena says fossil fuel industries would become obsolete if governments disclose forms of "zero-point energy" they've been developing in secret. Matthew Tuttle of Tuttle Capital Management tells "Reality Check with Ross Coulthart" that he believes whistleblowers who say the U.S. government and contractors are reverse-engineering recovered alien tech. It's likely the U.S. and rival nations for decades have been developing ZPE to harness energy from the quantum field. "It will be a game-changer unlike anything we could ever imagine. There are going to be massive winners, and there are going to be massive losers," Tuttle says. Tuttle suggests the U.S. has kept the project under wraps to protect major corporations that rely on conventional technology and energy sources. He said it's inevitable that someone, even another nation, spills the secret on ZPE, but it won't necessarily be ruinous for companies that suddenly find themselves dinosaurs. "It's going to take years to retool everything. My car is not going to use zero-point energy tomorrow. I'm going to be filling up my car with gas for a very, very long time," Tuttle said. His firm, which manages several "exchange-traded funds," recently launched a new "UFO Disclosure" ETF that presumes new information about UAPs will come to light and, in turn, benefit certain industries. The obvious beneficiaries are defense contractors and their suppliers.