article published in the Los Angeles Times raises questions
of a 9/11 conspiracy. The below Times article presents an interview
with distinguished theologian David Ray Griffin, who has become a major proponent
of a 9/11 conspiracy based on glaring inconsistencies and omissions in the
9/11 Commission Report. For more excellent information suggesting a 9/11
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- Copy of LA Times 9/11 Conspiracy Article
Getting Agnostic About 9/11
A society of nonbelievers
questions the official version
who types the words "9/11" and "conspiracy" into an online
search engine soon learns that not everybody buys the official narrative of
what took place on Sept. 11, 2001. As a professor emeritus at the Claremont
School of Theology, 66-year-old
David Ray Griffin would seem to have more
affinity for leather elbow patches than tin hats, yet after friends and colleagues
prodded him into sifting through the evidence, he experienced a conversion.
Now he's spreading the bad news. Griffin compiled a summary of material arguing
against the accepted story that 19 hijackers sent by Osama bin Laden took
the aviation system and the U.S. military by surprise that awful day in his
2004 book "The
New Pearl Harbor" (published by Interlink, a Massachusetts-based
independent publisher covering areas including travel, cooking, world fiction,
current events, politics, children's literature and other subjects). He recently
followed up with the book "The
9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions" (Interlink), a
critique of the Kean commission document in which he suggests that a chunk
of the blame for the worst terrorist attack on U.S. soil lies closer to home
than the caves of Afghanistan. We contacted him at his Santa Barbara-area
home for a report on his journey from mild-mannered scholar to doubting Thomas.
How did you join the ranks of those questioning the official account of the
I was rather
slow getting on board. For the first year and a half I just accepted the
conventional view, really the blowback thesis, that this was blowback for
our foreign policy. When a colleague suggested to me about a year after
9/11 that he was convinced our own government or forces within our own government
had arranged it, I didn't accept that. Then several months later another colleague
sent me [a link to] a
website that had a timeline. Once I started reading that and saw all
those stories drawn from mainstream sources that contradicted the official
account, I decided I needed to look into it more carefully, and the more I
looked, the worse it got. I considered it an obligation to kind of organize,
compile the evidence and put it out there for the public.
The Internet is full of 9/11 conspiracy theories. What have you contributed
to the discussion?
My main contribution has been the second book, [showing] that the 9/11 commission
report is not worthy of belief, and the implication of that is that they were
covering up the government's own guilt.
What would constitute a "smoking gun" against the official 9/11
many. By just ignoring them, the 9/11 commission implicitly admitted they
couldn't answer them. The towers
coming down into a pile only a few stories high is a smoking gun. Many laws
of physics had to be violated if the official story about the
collapses is true. [The collapses] had all the earmarks of a controlled
demolition by explosives. One of those is total collapse into a small pile
of rubble. The fact that Building
7 [a skyscraper near the towers] collapsed when it had not been hit by
an airplane, and collapsed in seven or eight seconds, that's a smoking gun.
The fact that standard operating procedures were not followed that morning,
and we've gotten three different stories now by the U.S. military as to why
not intercept the planes, that's a smoking gun. The Secret Service
leaving the president and themselves wide open to being attacked by [not responding
immediately], that's a smoking gun. I can't say one is bigger than the other.
You've got six or seven that are equally big.
the official 9/11 account seem to draw sinister inferences from instances
where people, buildings or physical objects didn't react or behave as one
might expect in theory. For example, if the hijackers were devout
Muslims, why were some drinking, eating pork chops and cavorting with
lap dancers? Doesn't real life unfold inconsistently, even bizarrely?
but the 9/11 commission simply ignored those questions. They're creating
this image of fanatics who were so devout and convinced of the truth of their
religion that they were ready to meet their maker, yet here's all this evidence
that suggests they were not devout at all. [The commission] simply ignored
Dissenters also seem to find it suspect that in a dire emergency, individuals
and agencies bumbled, fumbled, delayed, dropped the ball or choked. Won't
that occur in any emergency?
Well, of course,
that is the official theory. It's a coincidence theory that just happened
to be that on those days, everybody became terribly incompetent. Take the
FAA [Federal Aviation Administration]. They've got these standard procedures:
If a plane goes off course, if you lose radio contact or lose the transponder,
you call the military. On this day we're told these FAA officials hit the
trifecta. They got all three of these things, and yet they would stand around
debating, "Should we call the military? No, I don't think so." And
when they finally call, the people at headquarters won't accept their calls
because they were in conference or wouldn't pass the call on. They have roughly
about 100 hijack warnings a year where planes have to be scrambled, but suddenly
they become just all thumbs. The whole thing is just implausible. The other
thing is, if you've got accidents, screw-ups, some ought to go one way
and the others the other way. Here everything goes the same way. Everybody
fails to do their jobs in relation to something to do with 9/11.
With others, you have alleged that inconsistencies, omissions or lies in
the 9/11 record point to a cover-up, or even collusion or orchestration, by
the American government. What would motivate such a scenario?
liberal Democrats and Republicans and Independents who are appalled by what
Andrew Bacevich [a professor of international relations at Boston University]
called "the new American militarism" in the book "American
Empire." New meaning, qualitatively different than before. This post-9/11
push to a new level has made the world an enormously more dangerous place.
Many people apart from thinking about 9/11 as an inside job have decided that
the United States is doing what [Princeton University emeritus international
law professor] Richard Falk calls a "global
domination project." Chalmers Johnson [Japan Policy Research Institute
president], a previous conservative, now says that we have become a military
juggernaut intent on world domination.
Have you followed polls on what the public believes about 9/11?
a Zogby poll in New
York. The question asked was, do you believe the government had advance knowledge
of the attacks and consciously let them happen? Forty-nine percent in New
York City said yes. I believe it was 43% statewide. That is a pretty remarkable
figure. In this country there has not been a poll that asked, do you believe
the government actually planned and orchestrated the attacks? The question
has been raised in Europe and Canada and has gotten to somewhere around 20%.
It would be interesting to have such a poll in the United States.
Conspiracy theorists are often dismissed as marginal types. Where do your
views on 9/11 place you in the eyes of your peers in academia?
One thing to point out is, the official account itself is a conspiracy theory.
It says that 19 Arab Muslims under the influence of Osama bin Laden conspired
to pull off this operation. The question is not whether one is a conspiracy
theorist about 9/11. It's which conspiracy theory do you find most supported
by the evidence?
Does your role as a 9/11 dissenter depart from your life's work as a scholar
At first glance it may seem strange, but the task of a theologian is to look
at the world from what we would imagine the divine perspective, [which] would
care about the good of the whole and would love all the parts. [So] 9/11,
if it was brought about by forces within our own government for imperial reasons,
is antithetical to the general good.
Evil has been a subject of your academic writing. It's also been a recurring
theme in administration rhetoric. Is that strange?
In these politicians'
mouths, it's used to describe certain groups and organizations when it's politically
convenient to do so, and then to overlook even greater evil when it's politically
convenient to do so. If you understand the divine as an all-powerful and
wrathful creator who seeks vengeance, and uses overwhelming power to destroy
its enemies, why then, if you've got the political power, you're probably
going to think you're acting like God if you do that. The [Christian]
church during the early centuries was anti-empire. Rome was the enemy. With
Constantine, the empire accepted Christianity, and Christianity started accepting
empire and all that entailed. There has been a long history of support for
militarism, so from that perspective, it's not so strange.
Prior to your 9/11 work, did you have an anti-establishment streak?
I never burned my bra. I was fairly critical like a lot of Americans are,
but I don't think people would have looked at me and said, "There's an
Do you get hate mail?
I've had a few people suggest I need to see a psychiatrist, and one psychiatrist
in L.A. even kindly offered his services.